Game/Mod Locking?

[PrincessKooh]

I would think that overlapping texture packs and mods is possible depending which textures the mods were using
I believe the new way that they are being designed is that if you have a texture that you made you can designate what pixels replace trees, ground, ledges, water, etc. so if a mod uses different textures then a content pack would need to be compatible with that mod but downloading a texture that is incompatible would not mess up the game necessarily(did i explain it right draco?)

yes, but that isn't what she is after

she's worried about save editing, which isnt really modding at all.

we're happy to let everyone exploit this stuff for a while but by the time we release this has to be an actual game. there should be move tutors, nickname raters and all that jazz later on. basically, don't worry about saves being changed, this is a long way off.

Ah yes Thank you Draco and good to hear. Yes you more or less nailed it right on the head. Sorry if at any point I wasn't clear enough to any of you. I suppose in theory Move tutors, name raters , "And all that jazz" would be a huge help ( Hopeful that the re use of TM's might be phased back in to help play a role in that ) But if it's going to be "An actual game" I still stick by my main points in prior posts that the GB/DS/Nintendo official versions still have ways to be exploited. so in fairness & in sticking with being a remake as described on Indiedb hopefully you decide to continue to allow us "exploit this stuff" when that "long way off" time does come.

In closing tho thanks again for your help Draco ^^

 

[Darkfire]

Would save files still be editable as a modder(so when i am working on my mod I can hop around from place to place and check things?)
this would of coarse be separate from the main game
also maybe making an"import" system for pokemon(not species but like what IVs nature Evs moves etc a pokemon has)
people could "build" a pokemon
then enter the data into the "importer" and the importer would then make the pokemon
the pokemon could be used in the main game
also in co-op they could be allowed to be used when a group is formed
each pokemon would have an indicator indicating whether or not it was "imported" or was a legit catch
if the co-op group decides on no imports then imported pokemon would be locked out of the party and transfered to the box during the co-op but if the group agreed to allow imported pokemon then they could be used(great for technical competative battling)

 

[DracoHouston]

tms are already reusable, on difficulty 0

 

[DracoHouston]

Would save files still be editable as a modder(so when i am working on my mod I can hop around from place to place and check things?)
this would of coarse be separate from the main game
also maybe making an"import" system for pokemon(not species but like what IVs nature Evs moves etc a pokemon has)
people could "build" a pokemon
then enter the data into the "importer" and the importer would then make the pokemon
the pokemon could be used in the main game
also in co-op they could be allowed to be used when a group is formed
each pokemon would have an indicator indicating whether or not it was "imported" or was a legit catch
if the co-op group decides on no imports then imported pokemon would be locked out of the party and transfered to the box during the co-op but if the group agreed to allow imported pokemon then they could be used(great for technical competative battling)

nah for that i'm going to put in a play from here thing in pokeditor, so you select a spot to go on in your map and it launches the game in a limited mode using a character you specify, allowing you to walk around the map and play it, but you can only do that, you wont be able to save or quit to the main menu and play it normally, because it circumvents the launcher. we could let you use all the debug stuff in it probably

 

[PrincessKooh]

ok, so when players dont need to edit their saves there will be
-ways to legit find all the pokemon
-all the items in and attainable legit
-services that ppl have to edit saves for now, like move tutor and name rater
-people have to not ever fall under floors and shit like that
-we have the game at a point where we won't break your saves with an update


anything you dont replace that you try to use will fall back on the official files, so your mod can be as big or small as you want

Ah okay thanks and yeah I could see the items thing, and Finding Pokemon would be big points along with the saves thing. Also good ta know that things are or will be set up to fall back on "official files"

 

[PrincessKooh]

tms are already reusable, on difficulty 0

Oh really? ... I hadn't noticed lol.. In that case I hope it stays that way. I'll have ta check when I use a TM since I've yet to use 1

 

[DracoHouston]

ok, so when players dont need to edit their saves there will be
-ways to legit find all the pokemon
-all the items in and attainable legit
-services that ppl have to edit saves for now, like move tutor and name rater
-people have to not ever fall under floors and shit like that
-we have the game at a point where we won't break your saves with an update


anything you dont replace that you try to use will fall back on the official files, so your mod can be as big or small as you want

Ah okay thanks and yeah I could see the items thing, and Finding Pokemon would be big points along with the saves thing. Also good ta know that things are or will be set up to fall back on "official files"

yeah, like what its for is letting people make a mod thats just trainers being higher level or something, and allowing them to just use our maps instead of needing to provide a full set of their own or duplicate our files. or they can use our textures and not need to repackage them with their mod

 

[Sciguystfm]

Don't take away our right to play like we want.

If you don't to cheat, don't but i personally prefer games where I feel OP.

Leave the possibility open for those who play differently

 

[xxaa]

take your character to the orange isles for a bit, that sort of thing

Who is taking us to the Orange Archipelago?

 

[PrincessKooh]

take your character to the orange isles for a bit, that sort of thing

Who is taking us to the Orange Archipelago?

Dont Know Yet But I did Find A Hacked Rom/Mod that Makes the Orange Archipelago AKA Orange Islands Playable And you get to play as Ash ( As the Male Character 4 real ) Or As Misty ( Female Character ) Pokemon Naranja FTW Links: Game Info Or Download Here ( Note you Will need a GBA Emulator and the .GBA Files that pair with the game. In this case RUBY GBA ROM )

 

[Shou Liengod]

anyway getting at he task at hands. Related to 1YL. I would like the players to only use the 8 Playable characters that i will assign at New Game. You dint have to fret over able to use your oen. but rather enjoy the Characters i create. Trues me. you'll like each character. As of right now i only have 4 Characters that ae Playable. and my Goal would he Atleast 8. If no one likes any of them, i am willing to accept any nrw character design. however that character will not be YOU in general. and how it relates to the game locking is for multiple reasons. for 1, cheating is quite bad. however why would you cheqt if i myself have ideas on how to make 1YL a hit. for one im thinking about new Pokeball ideas. for 1, the Color Pokeball. what it does is that whatever pokemon you catch wih it. it will become a shiney pokemon. howelever, the pokemon will become 100% Impotent of the time. i have alot of ideas on what i can do that can make Pokemon3D and 1YL a bit more costumisablerather then cheating half the time.

 

[xxaa]

Who is taking us to the Orange Archipelago?

Dont Know Yet But I did Find A Hacked Rom/Mod that Makes the Orange Archipelago AKA Orange Islands Playable And you get to play as Ash ( As the Male Character 4 real ) Or As Misty ( Female Character ) Pokemon Naranja FTW Links: Game Info Or Download Here ( Note you Will need a GBA Emulator and the .GBA Files that pair with the game. In this case RUBY GBA ROM )

No 3d though
I hope some makes the Naranja Region extension in P3D. It's okay if we can't take our Pokemon there, I just want to go there after Kanto. Wouldn't this be awesome

 

[Shou Liengod]

goin offtopic.
Is there anything else that anyone would like to add? I believe Draco has already answered Most questions. so if there isnt any. You may delete this thread.

 

[Shou Liengod]

And btw, The Hoenn Project Committee is also doijg the Orange Islands. the thread is still in the Works In Progress section of the forums.

 

[PrincessKooh]

locking is for multiple reasons. for 1, cheating is quite bad. however why would you cheqt if i myself have ideas on how to make 1YL a hit. for one im thinking about new Pokeball ideas. for 1, the Color Pokeball. what it does is that whatever pokemon you catch wih it. it will become a shiney pokemon. howelever, the pokemon will become 100% Impotent of the time. i have alot of ideas on what i can do that can make Pokemon3D and 1YL a bit more costumisablerather then cheating half the time.

The Cheating in 1YL for me is mainly just to help Level up my poor Evee faster and Keep the cutie from fainting Also to raise Money Anyway 1YL is a hit to me already so far though now that Im at Sprot tower I'm finding the Wild encounters annoying and too common >.< Why do I feel like I was slathered in Honey? XD

Hmm them Pokeball ideas seem intriguing. Hope they will be reasonably price or easily obtainable ( Depending on if they are in shops or not )