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[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: and they are barely limited
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: obama using the IRS to target political rivals
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: lois lerner of the IRS pleading the 5th
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: to major corruption
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: all of them
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: until their held accountable
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: for the most important jobs in the country
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: itll always be bullshit
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM - thelegendary23: and rhetoric
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM - Raze: My view on government is kindof a limit on the breadth of their power, but not much limit on the exertion of their power
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM - Raze: Aka, limited laws, but extreme force in enforcement
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM - dylanwicorek: Such debate...
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM - thelegendary23: lol why would you want extreme force
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: in enforcement
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: what benefit
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: does that give us as a people..
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: all they're gonna do
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: is continue to lying to u
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - Raze: Honestly, the only reason not to have extreme force is for the people to be 'happy', but they are only happy through their selfishness
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: fabricating situations
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM - thelegendary23: to take more power
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM - thelegendary23: your making the common mistake
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM - Raze: Government is intended as a social contract so that the people are protected by one another
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM - thelegendary23: of thinking government knows better
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM - thelegendary23: there is such a big conflict of interest
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM - Raze: I do not think the government 'knows better'
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - Raze: I just believe a majority of the people are uneducated and selfish to the point where giving them free reign only hurts the country
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - Raze: And thus every member of the social contract
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: so who controls them?
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: and u understand
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: that them being uneducated
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: nd selfish
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: and voting based on that
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: is the exact same thing
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM - thelegendary23: lol

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 AM - thelegendary23: aka all the black ppl and the general populace that voted for O because 'it was cool' or the popular thing to do when having 0 info on his policies
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 AM - thelegendary23: he's failed the country
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 AM - thelegendary23: in a way it may never recover
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 AM - Raze: I do agree there
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:27 AM - Raze: Hmm... my ideologies are hard to put into words
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:27 AM - Raze: Because my foundation is that there is such thing as a perfect human
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:27 AM - Raze: Which in reality there is not
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:27 AM - Raze: So there can be no force which 'knows best'
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:27 AM - thelegendary23: exactly
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: and thats why we limit government
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - Raze: But we'd be so much better off with one
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: so we dont get a dictator
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: as obama is doing now
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: aka changing obama care laws
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: to fit his agenda
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: which is not a president
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: but a king
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: that can do that
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - thelegendary23: its a scary worled
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM - Raze: Honestly, I'd be fine with a dictator so long as his personal beliefs did not influence his decisions(but that in itself is impossible)
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM - thelegendary23: how can you say your fine with a dictator.
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM - Raze: Because at least the country wouldn't burn to the ground
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM - thelegendary23: why
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:30 AM - thelegendary23: what makes it that its less possible to burn to the ground if its a dictator than rather a democractically elected official
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:30 AM - Raze: My premise was that the dictator did not let his personal beliefs influence his decisions, thus, the perfect human
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - Raze: A human who purely acts through rationalism
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: that's also assuming
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: everyone else
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: acts rational
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: which as we know
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: is untrue
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: and unfortunately people are easy to manipulate
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - thelegendary23: masses*

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM - Raze: Yup
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:32 AM - Raze: But that was the premise for when I'd be fine with a dictator, but because reality doesn't work that way, I'm not
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:32 AM - thelegendary23: kinda sucks that obama fucked up this bad
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:33 AM - thelegendary23: the younger generation has no idea
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:33 AM - thelegendary23: whats in store
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:33 AM - thelegendary23: few ppl do
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:34 AM - Raze: You could always be a selfish S.O.B and just turn to nihilism (like me )
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:34 AM - Raze: I have no expectations for America, that's probably the most I can say
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM - thelegendary23: everytime i see a plane
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM - thelegendary23: i freakout about the malaysia plane
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM - thelegendary23: and what can/will eventually happen
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM - Raze: I just stopped caring
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: im sure you did
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: the issue
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: is that if something happens to the west
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - Raze: The world is f-ed up, can we change it? Sure. The question remains, who?
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: collective voices
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: not just 1 man
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM - thelegendary23: ever
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:37 AM - Raze: Honestly, more than just being against politics, I am against the entire idea of countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM - thelegendary23: being against politics
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM - thelegendary23: is like saying
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM - Raze: Sure, they were great when we had no means of communications, but now, as communications become global, do they really serve a purpose, except to seperate us based on culture?
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM - thelegendary23: they def serve purposes
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM - thelegendary23: but only for the countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM - thelegendary23: its the whole reason the US pushed for the creation of the UN
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM - thelegendary23: to control everyone simultaneously
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM - thelegendary23: as they generally do as a government through coercion or aggression
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - Raze: The world would be so much better off as a global community
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - Raze: Just realized I said that without thinking
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: i agree with you
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: in the sense
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: that communcation is key
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - Raze: Still have to worry about population density
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: its one of the reasons egypt was able to scrape by

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: a revolution past the american interests
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - Raze: But still am for globalizatoin
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - thelegendary23: that stood by the brotherhood
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM - Raze: globalization*
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:41 AM - thelegendary23: your from the US or abroad ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:41 AM - Raze: The not so good and definitely not 'old' USA
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:42 AM - thelegendary23: i fear that with tech the way it is
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:42 AM - thelegendary23: the next time tyranny comes out more aggressively
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: (so far obama, never know what he can do, or his successor after the bar is set)
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: itll be too late to take back those liberties
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: thats the thing with gov
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: once something is implemented
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: its practically impossible to rescind it
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - Raze: But, the other thing to worry about is that in case of a tyrant, most people are useless
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM - thelegendary23: its what gives them strength
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: are you familiar with the IRS targeting conservatives/religious groups (opposition of Obama)
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: did u hear about it
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - Raze: A bit, not too much
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: basically did what nixon was threatening to do
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: hardcore
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM - thelegendary23: before any of the victims
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: were interviewed
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: or even talked to
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: or an investigation taken palce
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: place*
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: even tho theres hard proof vs the IRS
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: AND
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:45 AM - thelegendary23: the IRS actually gave a formal apology
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: lol which we know is a rare occurence, some emails leaked that proved the head of the IRS was in on it (lois lerner, plead the fifth twice, i think congress is gonna hold her in contempt)
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: and Obama during the superbowl half time interview said and I quote, 'there's not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS '
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: not
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: a
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: even
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: SMIDGEN

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: and people ate it all up
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM - thelegendary23: and washed it down with their koolaid
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:48 AM - Raze: Well, that statement was obviously fraudulent, in any political organization there is going to be corruption(even if a 'smidgen')
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:49 AM - thelegendary23: its purposefully deceitful
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:50 AM - thelegendary23: it sucks
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - Raze: It's saddening to see how impressionable most people are
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: agreed
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - Raze: Honestly, when you think about it, the government is just a bunch of 'strangers'
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: the most dangerous thought in the common persons head
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: is 'o they would never do that'
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - Raze: You don't know how they think, or why they do what they do
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: they have very
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: real
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: aggressive interests
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - Raze: And yet people trust them
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM - thelegendary23: resources unlike anyone else
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM - thelegendary23: and a conflict of interest between power and public opinion
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM - thelegendary23: if they make a mistake
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM - thelegendary23: its CLEARLY against their interests to admit it
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM - thelegendary23: rather than cover it up
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM - thelegendary23: to feign competence
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM - Raze: Or they can issue a 'sincere' formal apology, and the public pities them
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM - thelegendary23: the only way to end the corruption
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM - thelegendary23: will be a people who demand results
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM - thelegendary23: not just good will
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM - thelegendary23: like obamas failed 'green energy' initiative
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: hold people accountable
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - Raze: *Cough* Solyndra *Cough*
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: the only way i see the people coming together
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: exactly
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: will be extreme adversity
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: and at that pt
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: it cud be too late
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: putin has made

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM - thelegendary23: some sort of ridiclous
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: movement
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: because of obama
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: in 5 yrs
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: hes the strongest man in the world
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: clearly
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: to everyone
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - thelegendary23: its not even a doubt
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM - Raze: Yea, Obama's kinda a wimp
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: he screwed the country in egypt
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: in afghanistan
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: libya
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: israel
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: saudi
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: syria
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: on everything
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: iran
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - thelegendary23: he fucked up majorly
Mar 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM - Raze: I think the single 'achievement' he claimed was 'causing' Bin Laden's death
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:00 AM - thelegendary23: and putting out seal team 6 out there to die
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:00 AM - thelegendary23: and die they did.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM - thelegendary23: egypt was the strongest military ally to the US in the middle East
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM - thelegendary23: we've been getting over 2B$/yr of military aid
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM - thelegendary23: and us tech
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM - thelegendary23: for the last 30 yrs
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: this yr however
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: we went to russia
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: thats not a small deal.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: and worse yet
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: the egyptian people
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: will never
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: ever
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM - thelegendary23: accept obama/US again
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:03 AM - thelegendary23: because of his betrayal to them

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:03 AM - Raze: I just hope the next president doesn't cause things to worsen...
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - dylanwicorek: Why are you two still talking about this...?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - Raze: Why not
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - Raze: It is an extremely interesting subject
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - Raze: That enables hours of debate
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - Raze: And it's not like anyone else is using the chat atm
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - dylanwicorek: Not interesting to me
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:04 AM - dylanwicorek: Just boring
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: o yeah
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: whats intersting
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: geopolitical conflict
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: is real life
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: affect
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: drama
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: ok lets change subject
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: dudes i found this greek place with my gf the other day
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:05 AM - thelegendary23: fucking
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM - thelegendary23: fantastic
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM - Raze: That sudden and random change of topic wasn't awkward at all
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM - thelegendary23: yeah you're right
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM - thelegendary23: what are your thoughts on sharia countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM - thelegendary23: raze
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM - thelegendary23: do u know much about them
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:08 AM - Raze: Not too much
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:08 AM - thelegendary23: its my pet peeve
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:08 AM - Raze: My not so educated view is that its nothing more than strict laws, justified by religion
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: yeah thats it
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: but the real issue
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: is how much misinformation is fed to the rest of the world regarding it
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: for example
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: Israel
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: got 9 UN resolutions this yr
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: (things the world is telling them to fix)
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM - thelegendary23: guess how many Syria got

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:10 AM - thelegendary23: (and there's been over 150k ppl dead in syria in the last 3 yrs)
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:10 AM - Raze: 0?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:10 AM - thelegendary23: dingding
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:10 AM - thelegendary23: ding
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:11 AM - Raze: Honestly, I don't know why'd you really need to change Israel, of all the places, it's probably the most stable country in the Middle East
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:12 AM - thelegendary23: definitely
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: thats the truth
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: the middle east is SO f'd up
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: do you know
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: if you bring a girl to your aptment
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: in muslim countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: u can get arrested if the authoriies are alerted
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: if you declare that your an athiest
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:13 AM - thelegendary23: or say F mohamad
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: you'd be killed quickly.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - Raze: And yet being against killing is part of their doctrine
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: its not at all
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: the opposite is true
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: they just lie
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: for the political coverage
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: lets be real raze
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: if you were an alien
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM - thelegendary23: and came from another planet
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:15 AM - thelegendary23: what is the common denominator
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:15 AM - thelegendary23: behind all the 'terrorist attacks'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:15 AM - thelegendary23: since 911
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - Raze: I'm not saying whether they follow their 'doctrine'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - Raze: I was just saying their technical doctrine was one where killing was frowned upon
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - thelegendary23: im saying its not
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - thelegendary23: in the quran
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - thelegendary23: its the most aggressive of all religons
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 AM - thelegendary23: by far
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - thelegendary23: their text
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - thelegendary23: tells them to hate jews
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - thelegendary23: and unbelievers

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - Raze: ". . . Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that you may acquire wisdom" (6:151) and, "Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except for a just cause. If anyone is killed unjustly, We allow his heir (to seek justice) but do not allow him to exceed bounds when it comes to taking life, for he is helped (by the law)" (17:33).
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - thelegendary23: women and non muslims are considered second class (even in modern day islamic countries0
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM - thelegendary23: “have been put under humiliation wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims. And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and transgressed.” (3:110) It says that Allah transformed th
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:19 AM - Raze: Honestly, most religious texts are open to interpretation, so quoting the Qur'an will get us nowhere
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:19 AM - Raze: People can twist 'rules' all the time
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: agreed
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: but what is the common denominator
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: of all terrorist attacks
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: if you were an impartial
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: alien
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - Raze: Fanatics
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: no.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: all
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: what do the terrorists
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:21 AM - thelegendary23: self identify as
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - Raze: If you want me to answer something like, 'Messengers of God', I disagree
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: no
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: as
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: they identify themselves
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: Muslims
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: thats a fact.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: that's the common factor
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: not 1 of them
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM - thelegendary23: are killing
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: for any other reason
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - Raze: There are a lot more non muslim terrorists
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: other then what their interpretation of the quran is.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: no
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: there arent
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - thelegendary23: proportionally
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM - Raze: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:26 AM - Raze: But honestly, Sharia Countries irk me less than North Korea does
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:26 AM - Raze: I'm amazed North Korea is even still standing, though
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:26 AM - thelegendary23: those stats are inaccurate

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: and all major terror attacks, not gang attacks
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: are by jihadists
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: following 'allah'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: and north korea is only standing
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: for the same reason pakistan is
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM - thelegendary23: they have something that iraq, libya didnt
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM - Raze: And what might that be?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:31 AM - thelegendary23: WMD
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:32 AM - Raze: Not like why we haven't fought them, but how they are even still alive
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:33 AM - Raze: I'm amazed North Korea has sustained
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:33 AM - thelegendary23: yeah
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:34 AM - nare362: RAZE THELEGENDARY23 tell me somthing when some one want to kille your familly what will you do
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:35 AM - thelegendary23: who's someone...?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:35 AM - nare362: i dont knoxw in war for example
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM - nare362: because you two speak about muslim that are terrorist
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM - thelegendary23: im not sure what kille is
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM - thelegendary23: o are you from the religion of piece
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM - nare362: yes im a muslim
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM - thelegendary23: so you mean when a muslim tries to kills our family for saying fuck mohamad or something right ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:37 AM - nare362: no no
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:37 AM - thelegendary23: o
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:37 AM - nare362: wehne some one want to kille your famaily what you do
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:37 AM - nare362: ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:38 AM - nare362: are you not gone to protect then ,right
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:38 AM - thelegendary23: i dunno what do you do? lol i dont get it.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:38 AM - thelegendary23: oo so the muslim world is defending itself
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:38 AM - thelegendary23: is the point your attempting to make..?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:39 AM - nare362: i want to tell you that the jihad is a doctrine for muslim
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM - nare362: but what bel laden do is not a jihed
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM - Raze: And nare, if you looked at what I said, I actually gave info(not sure how valid) that actually talked about how not all terrorists are muslims... Idk why you though I was talking about 'Muslims who are terrorists'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM - Raze: thought*
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM - thelegendary23: ok so you mean that in muslim countries everyone is equal? regardless of religion or gender ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM - thelegendary23: or is that untrue.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM - nare362: i konow that raze but what mean to say that jihad is a Doctrine in muslim life
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM - thelegendary23: ?

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM - Raze: Okay, I never mentioned Jihad
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:42 AM - Raze: So I don't see any relevance
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:42 AM - nare362: thelegendary23 i dont get what you mean
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:42 AM - Raze: There will always be fanatics who twist beliefs, in any religion, like christian serial killers who claim to do the work of god
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:42 AM - thelegendary23: do you think in muslim countries there is equality
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: regardless of religion, gender, belief, sexual orientation?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: thats just a convenient talking pt
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: 'oh all religions are like that'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: not in modern day
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: sorry
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM - thelegendary23: only 1
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:44 AM - thelegendary23: nare the first 2 lines after razes comment, id like your answer
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:44 AM - nare362: no ther is no equality
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:44 AM - thelegendary23: thank you
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:45 AM - nare362: the islam have his Provisions
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:46 AM - thelegendary23: i have no problem with islam or muslims
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:47 AM - thelegendary23: i just have an issue when moderates try to justify or ignore the situation happening in islamic countries in the name of 'allah'
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:47 AM - thelegendary23: that's unfortunate to me
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:47 AM - thelegendary23: that political correctness can shield people from human rights violations in islamic countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM - thelegendary23: infact my ex gf in egypt was muslim.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM - thelegendary23: and im a christian
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM - thelegendary23: so as you know nare
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - thelegendary23: i was risking my life
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - nare362: you mean like Syria
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - Flame0604: hello
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - thelegendary23: since the law is if a christian is with a muslim its punishable by death
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - thelegendary23: egypt.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - nare362: egypt do you konw RASLEN
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:49 AM - thelegendary23: no
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM - thelegendary23: do u know abu mazin?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM - nare362: لىخ
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM - nare362: no
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM - thelegendary23: i cant read arabic
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM - nare362: are you a christian
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM - thelegendary23: coptic

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM - thelegendary23: yeah
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM - dylanwicorek: That was random Nare...
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:52 AM - nare362: as a muslim i love egypte
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:52 AM - nare362: im from tunisa
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:52 AM - thelegendary23: u live there?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - nare362: no i live in tunisa
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: yeah
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: tell dylan
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - dylanwicorek: That's what he asked...
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: what would happen to me in egypt
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: if they caught me
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: a christian
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: with my muslim gf
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM - thelegendary23: (at the time)
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:54 AM - thelegendary23: or simply a non muslim with a muslima
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:54 AM - nare362: ther is muslim who Distort the islam
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - dylanwicorek: I have no interest in this religious/political debate
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - thelegendary23: just answer the question nare
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - thelegendary23: what would happen.
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - nare362: i just tell you to becarfull
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - thelegendary23: tell them
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - thelegendary23: so they know
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM - thelegendary23: what would happen
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: no ones blaming u
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: its just a reality people in the west have so far from their lives
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: that it's almost unebelivable
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - nare362: a i tell you ther is muslim like jihadis how wnat to take down ther home(egypt)
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: nare
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: if you went on facebook
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - nare362: yes
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: all of a sudden
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM - thelegendary23: and said
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: F Islam (hypothetically, not going after you)
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: and that you are now becoming an atheist
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: in tunisia

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: what would happen ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: im pretty sure they'd kill you
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM - thelegendary23: is that a fair assumption?
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:58 AM - nare362: i dont be atheist but as a muslim the only think i do is stay at home
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:58 AM - thelegendary23: i understand
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:58 AM - nare362: that what our prophet mohamed said
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:58 AM - thelegendary23: i know your not
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: but if you said to your muslim community
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: that your leaving islam
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: what is the cost of that
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: in a country like tunisia
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: IF
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: not actual situation, just an example
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: you would be either jailed if you were lucky
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: or killed most likely
Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM - thelegendary23: unfortunately.
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM - thelegendary23: is that a true statement
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:01 AM - thelegendary23: ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM - nare362: i well tell you somthing if a muslim change his religion his put to death
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM - nare362: and do you know why
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM - nare362: ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM - thelegendary23: because itll forgive of their sin
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:03 AM - thelegendary23: (or so they think)
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:03 AM - thelegendary23: for leaving the 'perfect religion'
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:03 AM - thelegendary23: is that correct?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM - nare362: no that the Magician
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM - thelegendary23: so then why?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:05 AM - nare362: because the prophet mohamed come with the coran
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:05 AM - nare362: and the couran is from god (allah)
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM - thelegendary23: do you think people who leave islam should live or die (your personal belief) ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM - nare362: and he come with the Miracles
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:07 AM - nare362: because we belive in jesus and all the prohet of god(allah) and all the books
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:08 AM - thelegendary23: lol nare i dont need an explanation, nothing will be justified to me as it is to you.
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:08 AM - thelegendary23: do you personally believe that people who leave islam should be killed ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:08 AM - nare362: no

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - thelegendary23: glad to hear that
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - thelegendary23: atleast
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - nare362: i know what will you want to tell me legendary
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - thelegendary23: what will i tell u ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - nare362: want to tell me that if you live i muslim countries sould be keilled
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM - nare362: ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - thelegendary23: i dont understand what u mean
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - thelegendary23: if I lived in muslim country would i be killed ?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - nare362: if a christain or a jews live in muslim caountries did his gone to die
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - thelegendary23: or ..?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - thelegendary23: no
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM - thelegendary23: not neccessarily
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: a jew yeah
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - nare362: is that what you mean
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: but not a christian
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: in what circumstance
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: if a non muslim
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: is with a muslima
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: they would be killed
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: if anyone
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: insults islam
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: or your prophet
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: theyd be killed
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: those we agree on
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: and are facts whether we do or not
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM - thelegendary23: lol
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - nare362: no even jews have the right to live but in the condation of what islam say
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: lol i'm pretty sure
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: if a jew moved to egypt
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: they wouldnt last too long
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: or saudi arabia
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: or tunisia
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - nare362: for example when a jews or christain is come to a islam countries we dont have the rigth to touch him
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: all muslims hate jews
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM - thelegendary23: most*

 

[DanielRTRD]

Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - nare362: and dyou konw why
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: so if i go to a muslim country
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - nare362: we dont touch him
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: they cant touch me
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: ...
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - nare362: yes
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: if i had sex with a muslim woman
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: they cant touch me?
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - nare362: that what our prophet say
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: thats not true
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: your interpretation
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: of your religion
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM - thelegendary23: is different than the government institutions
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - nare362: ohh really
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: and the hearts of the people
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: if i wasnt killed by the government
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: id be killed by the people
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: yeha.
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - nare362: did read the history
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: dude
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: im not talking
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: history
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: im talking
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: today
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: fact
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: in REAL countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: following the same doctrine you say they misinterpret.
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: nothing wrong with hoping
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM - thelegendary23: for reform or change
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - thelegendary23: but acting as if it doesnt happen
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - nare362: yeah ther is today the jihadist how dont know the real islam
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - thelegendary23: isn't the right way
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - thelegendary23: forget the mujahadeen for a minute
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - thelegendary23: how about the countries
Mar 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM - thelegendary23: how about the people