Important Chat Archive - DO NOT DELETE!

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 8:53 AM - jianmingyong: as I said, nillllzz copy what he has done so it will have same misakes unless I budge in and correct it.
Jan 31, 2016 3:30 PM - Aragas: cuz listening to others is for loosers
Jan 31, 2016 3:54 PM - Jaybird: sure is
Jan 31, 2016 4:08 PM - Aragas: so, mr. birdy, have something more interesting stuff to say?
Jan 31, 2016 4:23 PM - Fanta: 51 minutes ago - Aragas: cuz listening to others is for loosers
Jan 31, 2016 4:23 PM - Fanta: "others" have to speak first in order to be listened to.
Jan 31, 2016 4:29 PM - Capt_Segis: Aragas got some experience with C#
Jan 31, 2016 4:30 PM - Fanta: ok?
Jan 31, 2016 4:30 PM - Capt_Segis: He made PokeD's server program, being hosted by Duck Tard
Jan 31, 2016 4:30 PM - Fanta: go on...
Jan 31, 2016 4:30 PM - Capt_Segis: which is the most stable P3D server at the moment
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Capt_Segis: even more than AGN server, imo.
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Fanta: where are you going with this?
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Aragas: i am speaking, via pm. should i report all those bugs via chat?
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Fanta: you're reporting bugs via PM? to whom?
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Capt_Segis: Just saying he could help.
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM - Aragas: nilllzz
Jan 31, 2016 4:32 PM - Jaybird: Nils is already well aware of the problems you're referring to
Jan 31, 2016 4:32 PM - Fanta: they are just not on his top priority list
Jan 31, 2016 4:32 PM - Jaybird: also, the project is open source
Jan 31, 2016 4:32 PM - Aragas: you remember that bug that freezes battle? fixed. race condition, i bet it's related to other bugs too
Jan 31, 2016 4:32 PM - Jaybird: nothing is stopping him from altering whatever he wants
Jan 31, 2016 4:33 PM - Fanta: he leaves them for jian to fix them and focuses on implementing new features
Jan 31, 2016 4:33 PM - Fanta: and refining the engine
Jan 31, 2016 4:33 PM - Aragas: well, i provided himm not only the info how to fix it, but my fix .dll too
Jan 31, 2016 4:33 PM - Fanta: dll?
Jan 31, 2016 4:33 PM - Fanta: no thanks.
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Aragas: you know nothing john snow
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Fanta: ech
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Aragas: it's content is visible via reflection.
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Capt_Segis: Remember that annoying freeze bug in middle of a PvP battle?
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Capt_Segis: Aragas fixed it.
Jan 31, 2016 4:34 PM - Aragas: just said that lul
Jan 31, 2016 4:35 PM - Fanta: actually, I don't think he did
Jan 31, 2016 4:35 PM - Jaybird: I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 4:35 PM - Aragas: test it yourself.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:35 PM - Fanta: IIRC, nilllzz fixed it
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:35 PM - Aragas: orly? nope
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:35 PM - Fanta: I was testing it with him
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:36 PM - Aragas: i have read the last version, no fix
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:36 PM - Fanta: unless you mean a server application-related fix?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:36 PM - Aragas: client-related
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:36 PM - Fanta: meh, only about 20% of the changes make it to that list, every single version
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:37 PM - Aragas: well, i don't wanna be a douche here, but it's sad that there is no response when other devs wanna help
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:37 PM - Jaybird: what part of open sourse is so hard to understand
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:37 PM - Jaybird: source*
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Aragas: i have fully wrote myself my server, and i know how the server and client works. and still nothing
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Jaybird: oh
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Aragas: we are not discussing the new p3d, birdy
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Jaybird: are you waiting for nils to personally invite you to be a dev or something?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Fanta: lol, birdy
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:38 PM - Fanta: I think so, yea
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:39 PM - Fanta: at least that's what I got from that introduction
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:39 PM - Aragas: Oh really, don't be that guy
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:39 PM - Aragas: I don't wanna be in your team
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:40 PM - Aragas: But it would be nice if you would listen to other people that know where the problems are
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:40 PM - Jaybird: here's the core problem that I tried to rectify at the beginning
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:40 PM - Jaybird: you're assuming that without your input nils would never have been aware of the problem
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:40 PM - Fanta: ^
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:41 PM - Aragas: you are aware of it for a long time. and stuill you do nothing
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:41 PM - Fanta: as I said, he already knows about it and how to fix it, it's just not on his top priority list.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:41 PM - Aragas: And you are preventing others for doing it for you
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:41 PM - Aragas: *fixing stuff i mean
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:42 PM - Aragas: well, isn't that a douche way to do things?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:43 PM - Aragas: you can't fix stuff that is preventing people to play comfortably
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:43 PM - Fanta: so, we're back to square one, you want to be added to the dev team to fix these bugs, no?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:44 PM - jianmingyong: lol
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:45 PM - Jaybird: I imagine having someone else fix the problem would take almost as much time as him just fixing the problem himself
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:45 PM - Aragas: I already said my position on this. Not only devs can fix bugs. Heard of githubs pull request stuff?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:45 PM - Aragas: Other devs report he problem and may ecen fix it, then provide the fix code. The code owner should just apply those changes

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 4:46 PM - Jaybird: you mean apply those changes without making sure they do what they're supposed to do?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:47 PM - Aragas: you are not familiar with coding, are you?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:47 PM - jianmingyong: If nilllzz still have next mini update, I would make PvP fix next.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:47 PM - Aragas: If you can't understand the code that was fixed, well, you don't know you own source code
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:47 PM - Jaybird: he would still have to review the code
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:47 PM - Capt_Segis: ^ pvp fix
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:48 PM - Jaybird: which also takes time
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:48 PM - Capt_Segis: that's something good to hear
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:48 PM - Fanta: yea, after all he has to check every single change made by every single person
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:48 PM - Aragas: well, nobody is going to make that big fixes, his code is to messy for that
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Aragas: all my fixes are ~ 20 lines big
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Jaybird: yeah, it's almost like P3D is built on code he wrote when he was really unexperienced and he plans to rebuild it from the ground up or something
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Fanta: that's what he has delayed for 53 versions and started to do just now
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Aragas: Nobody is saying anything about it
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Aragas: We all heard this story
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:50 PM - Fanta: some fixes are just a character change, still takes a few mins to review
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:50 PM - Aragas: actually we are in familiar situation, our programming exp is somewhere similar
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:50 PM - Aragas: but i started C# at the beginning, not vb.net
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:51 PM - Fanta: I have no idea how you got to this conclusion? have you met nilllzz before? or something?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:52 PM - Aragas: common sense. P3D start develop date and other stuff
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:53 PM - Jaybird: I think he means both he and nils have both created a large free game with an online community
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:53 PM - Aragas: and he abandoned it, no?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:54 PM - Fanta: nope
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:54 PM - Fanta: he's remaking it, almost from scratch
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:54 PM - Jaybird: don't bother fanta, I've already tried explaining it several times
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:55 PM - Fanta: well, he has a good point, to an extent.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:55 PM - Duck Tard: remaking it? birdy told us it'd be total different game
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:55 PM - Aragas: I understand all of it. But other people not. Well, i'm not he person to jugde you, but you are providing no info to anyone
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:55 PM - Fanta: the problem is, since nilllzz opened sourced P3D, everyone can see what he's been doing
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:55 PM - Fanta: that's what remaking means anyway
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Jaybird: we're providing no info huh?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Capt_Segis: uh... Jaybird actually gave a lot of info about it not long ago
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Aragas: You expect common people to see his github? nobody is interested on that, they just wanna play a pokemon game. Is a C# dev, i understand all of it
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Fanta: oh, birdy told you about it?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Capt_Segis: check the chat logs

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Fanta: naughty birdy...
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM - Jaybird: fanta, I swear to god
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:57 PM - Jaybird: I will travel to sand land and kill you myself
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:57 PM - Fanta: you're not supposed to tell anyone, dude!
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:57 PM - Aragas: *understand ur situation
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:57 PM - Fanta: it's all your fault now!
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:57 PM - jianmingyong: hohohoho
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - jianmingyong: spoilers
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Fanta: I'm gonna tell nilllzz about you
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Jaybird: go ahead, as long as you never call me that again
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Fanta: and he's gonna do nothing of course...
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Capt_Segis: Still not nice to greet everyone who wants to help with sarcasm.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Fanta: call you what? birdy?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM - Jaybird: yes
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Aragas: I still don't get ur position on the whole situation. You have a community and have a responsibility to it.
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Jaybird: you know how I feel about people fucking with my name
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Fanta: sorry jey, mah bad
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Jaybird: that's better
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Jaybird: what responsibility do we have exactly?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Fanta: xD
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Jaybird: to the community we are providing a free game to?
Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM - Jaybird: and currently building ANOTHER free game for?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM - Fanta: Yes@!!!!
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM - Aragas: Well. I got birdy position on this one, What about u, fanta?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:02 PM - Fanta: well, my position is, the game is still indev, features are getting implemented, engine is getting re-written
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:02 PM - Jaybird: fanta provides more of a service to the community than anyone
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:02 PM - Jaybird: I can't imagine how many hours he's spent monitoring the forums
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM - Fanta: xD
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM - Jaybird: he's givin so much of his time and never made a dime from it
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM - Aragas: but there should be a layer between community and developers
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM - Fanta: more like....monitoring the chatbox
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM - Jaybird: I'm not even involved in P3D at all, but fanta is constantly working
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:05 PM - Fanta: Ok, I have no problems with the community helping with the development, on the contrary, I support it, and that's the reason why we have jian as a part of the dev team.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:05 PM - Jaybird: ech
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:05 PM - Jaybird: fanta

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:05 PM - Fanta: my problem is
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:06 PM - Fanta: when the dev team says "not now, I'm busy with something important" or "I'm building a base to help fix things faster and more efficiently"
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:06 PM - Fanta: the community gets mad and calls the devs lazy
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM - Fanta: more*
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM - Fanta: and anti-socials that only care about themselves instead of the community
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:08 PM - Aragas: well, honesty isn't the best thing, it can be misinterpreted
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM - jianmingyong: Misunderstanding is teh worst.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM - Aragas: But either saying that you are fixing bugs, when actially making something different. I mean, some bugs are close to critical
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM - Aragas: Just an example
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM - Fanta: Exactly, the problem is, people who don't understand have the loudest voices
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:11 PM - Aragas: There would be less bitching on official users if there was some info. i mean, aren't official post supposed to fix this kind of problem? Like "Hang on people, we're doing a new game that will blo you mind
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:12 PM - Aragas: It's not even funny that we are mentioning that kind of common sense thing
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:12 PM - Jaybird: yeah, if only someone came along recently and provided a bunch of info for the users so they would understand what's going on
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:12 PM - Jaybird: shame that never happened huh
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:12 PM - Aragas: official post
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:12 PM - jianmingyong: It used to have those 'info' till nilllzz either forgets about it or still cleaning up his floor with paper still unable to clean up.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:13 PM - Aragas: not some chat mentioning
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:13 PM - jianmingyong: or maybe still eating that apple that never ends
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:13 PM - Aragas: Nobody is interested on what some guy said, but when they see all of this as an official post
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:14 PM - Fanta: guiz
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:14 PM - Jaybird: who are these people you're referring to?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:14 PM - Fanta: twitter guiz
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:14 PM - Jaybird: cause the only people I see who have major problems are the same ones that already know about N3D
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:14 PM - Fanta: last P3D related tweet was 6 hours ago
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:15 PM - Capt_Segis: A post would help, because what was said in this chatbox just goes to the chat archive, which is not as easy to see
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:15 PM - Jaybird: a post would help
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:15 PM - Fanta: https://twitter.com/FPeterNET/status/693738211512827904?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:15 PM - Jaybird: but nils is also busy with work, school, a cold, and N3D
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:15 PM - Aragas: the kind of people that downloads the game, play it and are not interested on anything else. They are reading the last game's news and are the major part of the community
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:16 PM - Fanta: nilllzz has a life to live you know, and a job and school also if I recall
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:16 PM - Aragas: 6 months?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:16 PM - Aragas: or how long is it already
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Fanta: make it 3 years
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Aragas: I got the point
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Aragas: U got*

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Fanta: it's a hobby after all
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - jianmingyong: Actually if nilllzz doesn't want feature freeze, there will be more contant update.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Fanta: he does it in his spare time
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM - Aragas: Well, we all do, it's a free game after all
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:18 PM - jianmingyong: Hippo is back for more trolls. yay
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:18 PM - Aragas: We all are in this position, but still, not the best argument
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:21 PM - Aragas: Not all of those loud people are douches. But there is no other way to get any response
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:24 PM - Capt_Segis: Nilllzz would take lots of time on doing all of the coding by himself, he doesn't get paid for it, it's just a hobby and so.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:25 PM - Capt_Segis: why not accepting the help from other devs who wanna do it for free as well?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:26 PM - Capt_Segis: who have proved to be helpful
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:33 PM - Jaybird: because
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:33 PM - Jaybird: honestly
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:33 PM - Jaybird: more people complicate things
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:37 PM - Fanta: yea
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:37 PM - Fanta: we have a saying here : "more than one chief ruins the meal"
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:38 PM - Jaybird: oh right
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:38 PM - Jaybird: because you live in sandistan
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:38 PM - Jaybird: where you're ruled by warchiefs
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:38 PM - Jaybird: makes sense
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:38 PM - Fanta: yea, of course
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Fanta: the people are the meals
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Capt_Segis: lol sandistan... no need to mock other cultures
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Fanta: figured you'd get that reference
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Fanta: you'd*
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Aragas: well, nobody wanna be the chief. I'm an independent dev and all i want to is to point out any bug and provide fix if possible
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM - Capt_Segis: well nilllzz could be the only chief
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Aragas: U know, cuz my server will have this problem anyway, lol
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Fanta: just like a chief, you want to specify what spices to add and add it to the meal
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Fanta:
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Capt_Segis: and let others be helpers
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Fanta: Ok, guys
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Fanta: bottom line is,
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Aragas: well, that's a common thing in dev teams
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Jaybird: damnit fanta
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Fanta: the time for the community to help will come soon

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM - Jaybird: that wasn't even clever
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Aragas: nah, was a good point
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Jaybird: also I'm not making fun of his culture, I'm making fun of his country
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Fanta: just as soon as version 1.0 gets released
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Fanta: sandistan
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Fanta: I'm from sandistan
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:41 PM - Fanta: AKA Antarctica.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:42 PM - Jaybird: version 1.0 probably won't even be that far away
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:43 PM - Fanta: yea
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:43 PM - Fanta: a few more months
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:43 PM - Fanta: or millenniums
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:44 PM - Jaybird: there's probably gonna be 2 more updates
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:44 PM - Jaybird: one for the UI and one for Mt.Silver
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Jaybird: Mt.Silver should be 1.0
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Fanta: probably just one before the alpha, which is 0.54
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Jaybird: seriously, 1.0 is not the alpha -__
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Jaybird: -_-*
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Fanta: just a story update, no next get features
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Jaybird: P3D has never had and never will have an alpha
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Fanta: actually, this one is from nilllzz
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:45 PM - Fanta: 1.0 is alpha
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Fanta: 2.0 is beta 3.0 is gamma
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Jaybird: fuck
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Jaybird: you actually had me for a minute
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Jaybird: fuck you
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Fanta:
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 PM - Aragas: btw. i'm working on a game too, but 2d, like old gameboys. and my server supports both games on one world. so i'm interested on having new p3d client on my server too. old p3d, new p3d and mine in one world, lol
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:47 PM - Fanta: you can only wait then
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:47 PM - Capt_Segis:

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Fanta: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell...
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Capt_Segis: I think the reason we call 1.0 as alpha is because the P3D wiki shows it that way.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Fanta: that's written by the community
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Fanta: not the devs
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Jaybird: the P3D wiki isn't written by us
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Fanta: by yours truly

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - jianmingyong: written by tomato
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Capt_Segis: Wasn't it written by darkfire?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Fanta: Jian (or tornado)
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Jaybird: it was started by darkfire
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM - Jaybird: but it's mostly only updated from the community
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Capt_Segis: welp alright
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - jianmingyong: community which will point to me...
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Fanta: you see, that's my point
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Jaybird: it's funny that so much work was put into the wiki when it's mostly a copy paste from seribii
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - jianmingyong: because none other than me and a few have an account
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Fanta: any one could change that wiki
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Jaybird: N3D will need a full wiki, since it's 100% novel
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Fanta: and people would believe that it's the devs team that made those changes
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:49 PM - Jaybird: it's interesting to think that people might make a wiki about my creations
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:50 PM - Fanta: same to bug fixes
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:50 PM - Fanta: 1 bug fix could cause 10 new bugs and people would blame the devs for a thing they dind't even do
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:50 PM - Fanta: just like jian with the sleeping bug
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:51 PM - Capt_Segis: hey Jaybird, what are you working on in N3D?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:51 PM - Capt_Segis: do you do coding? or something else?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:51 PM - Jaybird: I'm the lead designer
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:51 PM - jianmingyong: That was unintentional because darky didn't warn me about the difference between debug build and release build
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Jaybird: P3D was a carbon copy of crystal, so it didn't need a designer
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Fanta: exactly my point
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Jaybird: but N3D is going to be a completely new region
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Fanta: devs shouldn't give tutorials to everyone who wants to fix bugs
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Jaybird: so all the towns, NPC's, story, dialogue, trainers, all have to be made from scratch
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Fanta: new pokemon too
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Jaybird: that's what I do
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:52 PM - Jaybird: no new pokemon
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Capt_Segis: oh, right.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Fanta: digimons too
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Jaybird: fatna
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Jaybird: spoilers
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Fanta: and yo-go-oh monsters as well
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Jaybird: jesus

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Fanta: mega and new giga evolutions
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Capt_Segis: can I have my own medabot in N3D?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - Jaybird: well now no one gets to be surprised
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:53 PM - jianmingyong: We have Digimon 3D
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM - Fanta: shizzz
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM - jianmingyong: and soon, more 3D copies coming.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM - Fanta: tick tick boom
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM - Jaybird: N3D is still early in development, it'll be awhile
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM - Capt_Segis: So... N3D won't have the places that P3D currently has?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM - Capt_Segis: speaking of Kanto, Johto and such.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:56 PM - Jaybird: no
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:56 PM - Aragas: will you use the pokemon world map to connect new region with old?
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:56 PM - Jaybird: the region will be completely new
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:57 PM - Capt_Segis: Alrighty then. *takes notes*
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:57 PM - Jaybird: there won't be other regions
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:57 PM - Jaybird: I mean, maybe like 4 years in the future there will be
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:57 PM - Jaybird: I can't speak that far ahead
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:58 PM - Jaybird: making a region is a lot harder than it was in P3D
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:59 PM - Fanta: much details and 3D models
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:59 PM - Fanta: new textures
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:59 PM - Fanta: ideas to be planned and plotted
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:59 PM - jianmingyong: and burn grahpic card to the max.
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:59 PM - Jaybird: no more flat panel houses everywhere
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:00 PM - Fanta: this game is moving up on the videogames' scale
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:00 PM - Fanta: from an a game to an AAA+ game
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - Aragas: i will eventually switch to 3d too, but when people will extract animation from XY and ORAS games
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - Jaybird: no one has ever successfully done that
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - jianmingyong: which is ultimately impossible.
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - Aragas: Those 3ds models are really good
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - Aragas: well, it's just a binary protocol, they eventually will
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:01 PM - Jaybird: those animations took a full triple A animating team 3 years to make
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:02 PM - Aragas: and they are really good
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:05 PM - Capt_Segis: I like the battle animations from 6th gen
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:05 PM - Capt_Segis: speaking of which...
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:06 PM - Capt_Segis: Are battle animations ever planned to be added to P3D?... or N3D?

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 6:06 PM - Fanta: probably to X3D
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:06 PM - Aragas: yea btw. Which models will be used? 3d or 3d?
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:06 PM - Aragas: 2d*
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:11 PM - Jaybird: N3D yes
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:11 PM - Capt_Segis: cool
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:11 PM - Jaybird: the battle system will be much better
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:11 PM - Jaybird: I'll make sure of it
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:13 PM - Fanta: thanks jey-san
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:14 PM - Jaybird: the thing I hated most about P3D was the battle system
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:14 PM - Jaybird: so I'll be damned if I don't make sure the new battle system is thoroughly satisfying
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:17 PM - Jaybird: there will be no animated pokemon models
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:17 PM - Jaybird: we aren't stupid enough to make that mistake
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:18 PM - Capt_Segis: will those models be 3D? or as they currently are?
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:18 PM - Jaybird: all models are 3D by definition
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Aragas: hm. will be they static? I mean, there are 2d images of 3d animations
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Aragas: i'll give u the link
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Jaybird: I'm not gonna say much more about it
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Jaybird: I don't want to give away too much this early
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Fanta: awwww
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Fanta: :'(
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Jaybird: there has to be something left to imagination fanta
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Fanta: TELL US MOAR!! JEY-SAMA!!
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Capt_Segis: ^ LOL
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Jaybird: if I reveal the whole game right away what to people have to look forward to
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Fanta: the things you talked about?
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Aragas: http://www.pkparaiso.com/xy/sprites_pokemon.php
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Aragas: this
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Fanta: I"M EXCITED MATE!
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Jaybird: fine
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Capt_Segis: will it include pokemon, moves and abilities from all gens?
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Fanta: I want soon to be naw!
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Jaybird: wait no
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Jaybird: ech
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM - Jaybird: I wanna talk to nils before I reveal anything else
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Capt_Segis: alright then

 

[DanielRTRD]

Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Fanta: Ok, we'll wait
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Fanta: for a min only
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Fanta: THEN WE RIOT!!!
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Aragas: there even are some move animation
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Jaybird: alright fine
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Aragas: i will use it definitely
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Jaybird: yes aragas, we plan on using those
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Aragas: hehehe
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Aragas: the only problem with them are size
Jan 31, 2016 at 6:25 PM - Aragas: one of the solutions is using another format. maybe some video format, or one of those new fancy gif replacers
Jan 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM - Magi: So hard to keep up with chat and still have a life. Lol
Jan 31, 2016 at 8:08 PM - Capt_Segis: Do you remember when chatbox was filled up with random bullcrap? I do.
Jan 31, 2016 at 11:31 PM - Magi: Hey that'll happen with any group chat. Try it out on Facebook.
Jan 31, 2016 at 11:33 PM - Magi: It's just I use chat for any kind of news or information cause we've all kinda been abandoned by the devs it feels like. Need more real news posts, not chats.
Jan 31, 2016 at 11:33 PM - Magi: As much as I appreciate all the info you've given, Jaybird <3

 

[DanielRTRD]

Feb 1, 2016 at 1:48 AM - DizzyStriker: Is this game still played alot?
Feb 1, 2016 at 3:07 PM - SViper: Hi everyone
Feb 1, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Capt_Segis: Join AGN 24/7 Server!
Feb 1, 2016 at 4:49 PM - Capt_Segis: address: p3d.aggressivegaming.org
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:24 PM - bltz524: So I take it they finally gave up with this game?
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:25 PM - Capt_Segis: they are releasing an update for the indev version soon
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:25 PM - Capt_Segis: and there are stable servers online
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:25 PM - Capt_Segis: so... not really.
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:26 PM - bltz524: Well considering they haven't released anything new since Aug 2015, I would say yes.....they did.
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:26 PM - Capt_Segis: they released 0.53.3 last month
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:27 PM - Capt_Segis: also, check nilllzz's twitter for more news
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM - bltz524: why don't they post it on here. This is where i check. I stopped playing once I got to Kanto and was gonna wait till the whole game was completed to finish it. But it seems that wont happen anytime soon
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM - Capt_Segis: Well, if you don't wanna check the twitter feed, which is the only current source of news, that's not my problem.
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM - Capt_Segis: Also, 1.0 version is being developed at the same time as the next indev version
Feb 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM - Capt_Segis: check the chatbox archive

 

[DanielRTRD]

Feb 2, 2016 10:09 AM - nare362: guys what legendary can we catch
Feb 2, 2016 10:29 AM - Magi: All
Feb 2, 2016 2:22 PM - Jaybird: you can't catch every legendary
Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM - Fanta: what have you done jey....
Feb 2, 2016 6:05 PM - Jaybird: wat >.>
Feb 2, 2016 6:08 PM - Fanta: "Yesterday at 6:32 PM - Capt_Segis: Also, 1.0 version is being developed at the same time as the next indev version"
Feb 2, 2016 6:08 PM - Fanta: I mean....I can't fully blame you....
Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM - Jaybird: not my fault
Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM - Jaybird: he didn't use the word alpha
Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM - Jaybird: which means I finally got through to someone
Feb 2, 2016 6:11 PM - Fanta: yea....my point exactly >.>
Feb 2, 2016 6:12 PM - Jaybird: not my fault you don't understand what alpha means
Feb 2, 2016 6:12 PM - Fanta: Educate me
Feb 2, 2016 6:13 PM - Jaybird: do you know what indev stands for fanta?
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Fanta: yea, AKA Pre-Alpha
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Jaybird: .....
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Jaybird: indev stands for in development
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Fanta: exactly
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Fanta: AKA
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Fanta: Pre-Alpha
Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM - Jaybird: alpha and beta are arbitrary tags applied to games to signify how far through development they are
Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM - Jaybird: a game in alpha is not a finished game, it's still in development
Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM - Jaybird: indev applies to any period before a games final release
Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM - Jaybird: any game that is in alpha, is indev
Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM - Fanta: which would be exactly the state of version 1.0
Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM - Jaybird: adding to that, a game that is on version 1.0 is a complete product and is no longer indev
Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM - Jaybird: which means that version 1.0 is not and can never be an alpha build of a game
Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM - Fanta: Ok, I understand what you're saying
Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM - Fanta: and I TOTALLY agree with you
Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM - Fanta: 1.0 should never be called alpha
Feb 2, 2016 6:17 PM - Fanta: but who am I to argue with nils and ben?
Feb 2, 2016 6:17 PM - Jaybird: nils is literally the person who originally taught me all this
Feb 2, 2016 6:17 PM - Fanta: this is common knowledge
Feb 2, 2016 6:17 PM - Fanta: common sense if you may
Feb 2, 2016 6:17 PM - Jaybird: what is common knowledge?

 

[DanielRTRD]

Feb 2, 2016 at 6:18 PM - Fanta: it's the level of education that peasants should have.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:18 PM - Jaybird: if it's common knowledge that 1.0 = alpha that's on you guys
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:18 PM - Jaybird: nils never said that
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM - Fanta: eh
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM - Fanta: common knowledge is that 1.0 =/= alpha
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM - Jaybird: not around here it aint
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Fanta: yea, but then again, people actually believe every word you say, so....
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:20 PM - Fanta: yea
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Jaybird: and you didn't know indev = alpha
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Fanta: well...
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:22 PM - Fanta: 1.0 could be called release version
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: there could be a 1.01 alpha
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: 1.01 beta
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Jaybird: The game is currently in the indev state, it goes Indev>Alpha>Beta>Full release
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: and 1.01 release version
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Jaybird: that's a quote from you
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: not exactly what I meant
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Jaybird: >.>
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: every single version goes in that order
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Jaybird: I'm gonna go eat lunch
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:23 PM - Fanta: 0.53 went from indev to full release
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:24 PM - Fanta: it gets tested by the devs then the testing team then released to the public
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:25 PM - Fanta: as in indev is the "getting coded" part, alpha is the dev team testing the new code, beta is the QA team testing the alpha version, and full release is when it is in a ready to be released to the public state.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:43 PM - Aragas: you can take minecraft as an example
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:47 PM - Jaybird: fanta all you're doing is slapping arbitrary labels to steps in the process of a version release
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:47 PM - Jaybird: watch this
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:48 PM - Jaybird: hence unicorn is the part where it's developed, assfuck is the dev team testing, wisconson is the QA team testing it, and Iphone 6 is when it is released
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM - Jaybird: the words hold no meaning in context, it's not proof of anything
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM - Aragas: dafuq
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM - Capt_Segis: uhh... does P3D have a QA team?
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM - Jaybird: not to my knowledge
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM - Fanta: Yes
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:50 PM - Aragas: was that some meta shit?
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:50 PM - Fanta: wut?
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:50 PM - Fanta: anywho

 

[DanielRTRD]

Feb 2, 2016 at 6:51 PM - Aragas: well that's some awkward chat right now i tell ya
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:51 PM - Fanta: A program will forever be in development until the developer abandons it.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:52 PM - Jaybird: you're just arguing semantics at this point
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:52 PM - Aragas: development has cycles
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:54 PM - Fanta: bottom line is, just because 0.xx was called indev doesn't mean that 1.xx will be alpha.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Jaybird: you're right
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Jaybird: it won't be alpha
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Jaybird: this has been established
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Fanta: Yes.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Jaybird: you weren't defending this point, I was >.>
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Fanta: I wasn't attacking it.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:55 PM - Aragas: just call it 1.4.0a and it will be alpha
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM - Aragas: 1.5.0b and it will be beta
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM - Aragas: 1.0.0 will be release
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM - Magi: So much fighting. Let's all just hug.
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM - Fanta: the system has been used before
Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM - Aragas: simple as shit