New starter pokemons

[MrTimoshi]

I think there should be a starter for every type... except maybe ghost for the reason mentioned above. Have the rival pick a random starter that has the advantage over your chosen starter. Example: You pick Charmander and your rival has a choice between Squirtle, Digglet, and Geodude.

 

[Tav]

I do agree with Draco, up to some point... Much easier work for the developers, I think that will be appreciated.

However, that is also exactly the reason new starter types should be implemented. Make the game more difficult if you start with a simple pokemon at the beginning of the game... What if you started as a bug catcher with a weedle? What if you started with a level 10 magikarp? A tyrogue*? Alternate starting scenarios for enchanced difficulty might actually be fun.

The scenarios would be "preselected" off course. An appropriate rival pokemon would be selected for each starting pokemon, no randomness...

*Tyrogue is indeed a fighting pokemon, but his moveset is actually very limited unless it evolves, had to check in generation 4 pokedex to make sure... It only knows tackle, helping hand and fake out till 20... Challenge accepted?

 

[JojoP]

How about this :
Since there will be multiple regions you can choose 1-3 additional Starter Pokemon each time you beat the Elite 4 as completion for a region. That way you have the normal game ... then unlock a more custom game, maybe there should be a special lock for really strong Pokemon so that you can't choose Pokemon like Dratini or Larvitar for your 2nd playthrough.
This would only count once for every League - so if you complete Johto then start a new game with custom starters you have to beat Johto and Kanto to unlock new ones.
All 5 regions would then give you the opportunity of choosing your Starter Pokemon from every Type.

 

[Kynotzib]

How about this :
Since there will be multiple regions you can choose 1-3 additional Starter Pokemon each time you beat the Elite 4 as completion for a region. That way you have the normal game ... then unlock a more custom game, maybe there should be a special lock for really strong Pokemon so that you can't choose Pokemon like Dratini or Larvitar for your 2nd playthrough.
This would only count once for every League - so if you complete Johto then start a new game with custom starters you have to beat Johto and Kanto to unlock new ones.
All 5 regions would then give you the opportunity of choosing your Starter Pokemon from every Type.

I don't mind this. It would still give us the chance to still playthough with different starters. Though because of the length of the game it is a bit of a grind to have to complete it 5 times just to have access to all starter types.

 

[Haddez]

How about this :
Since there will be multiple regions you can choose 1-3 additional Starter Pokemon each time you beat the Elite 4 as completion for a region. That way you have the normal game ... then unlock a more custom game, maybe there should be a special lock for really strong Pokemon so that you can't choose Pokemon like Dratini or Larvitar for your 2nd playthrough.
This would only count once for every League - so if you complete Johto then start a new game with custom starters you have to beat Johto and Kanto to unlock new ones.
All 5 regions would then give you the opportunity of choosing your Starter Pokemon from every Type.

So you start with the original 3, then when you beast the Elite 4 you can pick an unevolved pokemon? Or pick another starter from another region

 

[MrTimoshi]

I think the best thing would be leaving the starters as is and be able to choose which region you start in. All starters would also have a low encounter rate so you can catch them. Lore says they're rare but never lets you encounter them in the wild... which I think is stupid.

 

[Haddez]

I agree you should be able to find them in the wild. The encounter rate should be 1% though, so they are still extremely rare.

 

[MrTimoshi]

I agree you should be able to find them in the wild. The encounter rate should be 1% though, so they are still extremely rare.

Exactly what I was thinking. Put them in appropriate places, too... such as Bulbasaur in the forest, Squirtle at Lake Rage, and Charmander in the burnt tower. I wouldn't limit them to these locations... I was just using them as examples.

 

[Kynotzib]

I agree you should be able to find them in the wild. The encounter rate should be 1% though, so they are still extremely rare.

I think the encounter rate should be a little higher.

Exactly what I was thinking. Put them in appropriate places, too... such as Bulbasaur in the forest, Squirtle at Lake Rage, and Charmander in the burnt tower. I wouldn't limit them to these locations... I was just using them as examples.

This makes sense as well. No reason for finding a charmander in the middle of a route.

 

[JojoP]

There are 2 ways I could think of ...
1. Say you start with Charmander and beat the Elite 4,n the end you can choose from a list of Fire type Pokemon with 3 Evolutions. On your new Save Game you can then choose either Charmander, your chosen Pokemon or one of the 2 Pokemon that are there by standard. But that would make it totally not worth it to unlock all starter Pokemon because you would have to complete even the Johto League 3 times just to get 3 different Starters.
2. In the end you can choose 3 Pokemon, the first is a free choice, the second has restrictions depending on what you chose as first Type, leaving only Pokemon with Type advantages or disadvantages ... and the third would be a Pokemon that matches the previously chosen.
The Problem with this one is that Pokemon with 2 Types could make unfair assortments.

 

[MrTimoshi]

This makes sense as well. No reason for finding a charmander in the middle of a route.

I wouldn't say that... Ponyta and Rapidash are outside Mt Silver. Growlith is between Celedon and Saffron. Ash found Charmander in the middle of the woods.

 

[MrTimoshi]

There are 2 ways I could think of ...
1. Say you start with Charmander and beat the Elite 4,n the end you can choose from a list of Fire type Pokemon with 3 Evolutions. On your new Save Game you can then choose either Charmander, your chosen Pokemon or one of the 2 Pokemon that are there by standard. But that would make it totally not worth it to unlock all starter Pokemon because you would have to complete even the Johto League 3 times just to get 3 different Starters.
2. In the end you can choose 3 Pokemon, the first is a free choice, the second has restrictions depending on what you chose as first Type, leaving only Pokemon with Type advantages or disadvantages ... and the third would be a Pokemon that matches the previously chosen.
The Problem with this one is that Pokemon with 2 Types could make unfair assortments.

That would be too much work for very little payoff. It seems too deferred from the original series, too.

 

[Kynotzib]

I wouldn't say that... Ponyta and Rapidash are outside Mt Silver. Growlith is between Celedon and Saffron. Ash found Charmander in the middle of the woods.

Fair point

 

[DracoHouston]

I do agree with Draco, up to some point... Much easier work for the developers, I think that will be appreciated.

However, that is also exactly the reason new starter types should be implemented. Make the game more difficult if you start with a simple pokemon at the beginning of the game... What if you started as a bug catcher with a weedle? What if you started with a level 10 magikarp? A tyrogue*? Alternate starting scenarios for enchanced difficulty might actually be fun.

The scenarios would be "preselected" off course. An appropriate rival pokemon would be selected for each starting pokemon, no randomness...

*Tyrogue is indeed a fighting pokemon, but his moveset is actually very limited unless it evolves, had to check in generation 4 pokedex to make sure... It only knows tackle, helping hand and fake out till 20... Challenge accepted?

I have no idea if this could work in the main game or not but you can make a new starter pokemon selection sequence right now with maps, your idea could easily be a mod

Your mod could have its own version of the elm's lab map with different pokemon then just have the player continue along the official maps, or new versions of the maps tuned for those starters

 

[Tav]

I do agree with Draco, up to some point... Much easier work for the developers, I think that will be appreciated.

However, that is also exactly the reason new starter types should be implemented. Make the game more difficult if you start with a simple pokemon at the beginning of the game... What if you started as a bug catcher with a weedle? What if you started with a level 10 magikarp? A tyrogue*? Alternate starting scenarios for enchanced difficulty might actually be fun.

The scenarios would be "preselected" off course. An appropriate rival pokemon would be selected for each starting pokemon, no randomness...

*Tyrogue is indeed a fighting pokemon, but his moveset is actually very limited unless it evolves, had to check in generation 4 pokedex to make sure... It only knows tackle, helping hand and fake out till 20... Challenge accepted?

I have no idea if this could work in the main game or not but you can make a new starter pokemon selection sequence right now with maps, your idea could easily be a mod

Your mod could have its own version of the elm's lab map with different pokemon then just have the player continue along the official maps, or new versions of the maps tuned for those starters

That is actually so cool... Then I better start learning how this map building works