I did it heres a guide
ok I made a guide for someone
well theres 4 puzzles
1 w/ surf (alph ruins)
1 normal
1 w/ str: connect from union cave
1 w/ surf union cave
Map of union cave:
ok to get in b1, follow this
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b1
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x = wall
o = surf
T = trainer
C = point of interest
Go to the lowest path down the ladder (MAIN ENTRENCE)
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X = LOCKED UNTIL either of the union cave is activated
area dropped = area unlocked
A: Point of interest
E = ENTRANCE
activate all 4 do the puzzle head to the next room
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first go into 2, 3 then 4 turn around at 1 then head to 3 and 2 turn around again into 5 and then go into the back room
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(only activated when all 4 secret rooms are used)
Now go into 6
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11 = the old man
0 = lv 40 unowns
beat all 8 then talk to him and get 2 irons
theres a spoiler alert map guide
go past the area (of the 2 statues)
then go further