Feedback : Removeing shiny candy

[james012]

I am sorry to say this was kinda dumb, If the info I got on this is right if not please tell me why they were as this don't see to be right.
Ok so I read they were removed do to players finding a dup bug with them. If this is true how does removing them fix this bug it still works with other items, so what is the next good item to be removed do to this?
Would it not be better to find the bug and fix it.
And p.s. to the devs, some time ago I told you guys about this and got blowed off, so if you guys want to lisen now I am still willing share the info I know on this and how to get inf item's and gold ,exp any day.

 

[Fanta]

I am sorry to say this was kinda dumb, If the info I got on this is right if not please tell me why they were as this don't see to be right.
Ok so I read they were removed do to players finding a dup bug with them. If this is true how does removing them fix this bug it still works with other items, so what is the next good item to be removed do to this?
Would it not be better to find the bug and fix it.
And p.s. to the devs, some time ago I told you guys about this and got blowed off, so if you guys want to lisen now I am still willing share the info I know on this and how to get inf item's and gold ,exp any day.

because dupping the shiny candy was the only thing that kinda mattered, in the last version (0.52.1) people were able to get almost any item they wanted with almost zero money and with max quantity, having 999 rare candies or 999 masterballs does not have a heavy impact on the gameplay, having 999 shiny candy on the other hand....does.
besides, fixing the bug only stops people who don't have them from dupping them, but for people who already have some, removing it entirely was the only option.

 

[nilllzz]

You can also hack the game to do anything you would like, you can make your Pokémon shiny that way.

Of course, we are always trying to fix glitches in the game, but when you abuse a technique that is not really a bug, we will not prevent it from happening. Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn.
The only things that cannot be hacked are several things that involve ranklist placement, for obvious reasons.

Also, Shiny Candies have been removed for the simply reason that they made Shiny Pokémon too easily accessible. Shiny Pokémon are supposed to be rare, they are supposed to be some kind of trophy that does not require skill to obtain, as they are appearing randomly. Shiny Candies work against this principle.

 

[PersuerNL]

You can also hack the game to do anything you would like, you can make your Pokémon shiny that way.

Of course, we are always trying to fix glitches in the game, but when you abuse a technique that is not really a bug, we will not prevent it from happening. Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn.
The only things that cannot be hacked are several things that involve ranklist placement, for obvious reasons.

Also, Shiny Candies have been removed for the simply reason that they made Shiny Pokémon too easily accessible. Shiny Pokémon are supposed to be rare, they are supposed to be some kind of trophy that does not require skill to obtain, as they are appearing randomly. Shiny Candies work against this principle.

Ranklist positions have been hacked several times. If you ever see a player above smasher, you know something happened. Especially if the player has 10 million points.

 

[nilllzz]

Ranklist positions have been hacked several times. If you ever see a player above smasher, you know something happened. Especially if the player has 10 million points.

Sure, that was prior to this version, which made it harder to do so.

 

[james012]

Ok so one of the webmasters removed my post here telling you guys how to get the same out of the game as the ones who use cheats only to have it removed. even after nilllzz said " Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn." so I don't see why players who don't know how to do this should not be able to know how to get on the same lvl as the ones who have if they wish to play this way. I even gave good guide line on what to do and what is a big no no so in the words on nilllzz if you wanted items or money it was cool just not rank and stuff like that.
now b4 this gets removed I what to say I AM NOT being abusive, overly aggressive, threatening, or to "troll, if nilllzz don't care this should be public information

 

[Darkfire]

There is a major difference between using an in-game exploit and using a hacking tool
Things like changing your computer time to get different day times are "Exploits" that while seeming like cheating are not.
Using continuous input tools something that can be done to make breeding or other farming easier and I don't think the game detects that as malicious.
"Exploits" require actual thinking and mental skill to find and use and, as actual parts of the game, while not directly encouraging or condoning these actions we are okay with them.

What you are talking about is directly dishonest: Changing save values to ones more to your liking.
This is like using a GameShark for the actual games to get shinies and stuff.
That is something I cannot approve of.
We have sandbox mode for doing stuff like that.
Online is for "serious" play; people who want a place to FAIRLY battle, trade, and earn scores.
If you dont want to play fair and EARN your online standings DONT PLAY ONLINE.

 

[james012]

There is a major difference between using an in-game exploit and using a hacking tool
Things like changing your computer time to get different day times are "Exploits" that while seeming like cheating are not.
Using continuous input tools something that can be done to make breeding or other farming easier and I don't think the game detects that as malicious.
"Exploits" require actual thinking and mental skill to find and use and, as actual parts of the game, while not directly encouraging or condoning these actions we are okay with them.

What you are talking about is directly dishonest: Changing save values to ones more to your liking.
This is like using a GameShark for the actual games to get shinies and stuff.
That is something I cannot approve of.
We have sandbox mode for doing stuff like that.
Online is for "serious" play; people who want a place to FAIRLY battle, trade, and earn scores.
If you dont want to play fair and EARN your online standings DONT PLAY ONLINE.

I for the most part agree with this, and I very well know the difference of bugs/Exploits, scrits/bots , cheats/hacks. Now with that being said It does not mean I always do them but with what I do, In real life its not hard to see flaws and something simple as I posted b4 can get past it, and even b4 you guys had it block cheat engine, I have friends on here that's was hacking... well every thing you can think of.
And as for my liking darkfire, I don't think you know what I like in all fairness, I have offered info countless time b4 on some of the tricks I know that are very unfair as I want to see them fixed. Now I took free crap from my friends don't get me wrong a lot but I never done this didn't have too, and after seeing 3 of them poped for rank hack is more the reason why at the time too but now even after I came back and there still doing there thing is dumb, and btw I don't just mean max money and items, there is a way to make your pokemon way stronger then they should be, and yes works in pvp so lets talk about what has a heavy impact on the gameplay I think this counts.
For the longest time after I talked to 2 of you and just got the cold shoulder I thought you guys had a fix for it and I come back after like 7 big patches and noting lol, this is not cool pvp is unfair, I got a friend who with 1 pokemon can wipe out anyone best 6 team ya that's cool as heck, I know he done pvp with a few players so if they read this they would know who he is. This is highly unfair and needs to be fixed or the info needs to be given out so other my match the stats of that kinda of pokemon.

And dark that's cool you fill this way about not approving , and take if offline, I am with you on this but it seems others are not and its to the point were I see it too unfair and something needs to be done one way or the other to make it fair and with nillzz saying if we use hacks who gives a damn kind of makes me mad, I mean how can some one say that about there own game. With this being said If someone will not fix this I will just quest and make all of this fair.

 

[Enethil]

if we use hacks who gives a damn kind of makes me mad, I mean how can some one say that about there own game. With this being said If someone will not fix this I will just quest and make all of this fair.

If you want to hack so badly, perhaps you ought to play on single player where you can play around with your save however much you want, but in online mode, it would by no means be fair to everyone else who plays the game legit to encounter a trainer with a fully hacked OP team of uberness.

 

[james012]

If you want to hack so badly, perhaps you ought to play on single player where you can play around with your save however much you want, but in online mode, it would by no means be fair to everyone else who plays the game legit to encounter a trainer with a fully hacked OP team of uberness.

Hay your right and guess what that lil quote you did from me right there it was not mine it was nillzz, but yes this is my point and why I want this stat hack fixed tyvm.

You can also hack the game to do anything you would like, you can make your Pokémon shiny that way.
Of course, we are always trying to fix glitches in the game, but when you abuse a technique that is not really a bug, we will not prevent it from happening. Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn.
The only things that cannot be hacked are several things that involve ranklist placement, for obvious reasons.
Also, Shiny Candies have been removed for the simply reason that they made Shiny Pokémon too easily accessible. Shiny Pokémon are supposed to be rare, they are supposed to be some kind of trophy that does not require skill to obtain, as they are appearing randomly. Shiny Candies work against this principle.

 

[nilllzz]

I for the most part agree with this, and I very well know the difference of bugs/Exploits, scrits/bots , cheats/hacks. Now with that being said It does not mean I always do them but with what I do, In real life its not hard to see flaws and something simple as I posted b4 can get past it, and even b4 you guys had it block cheat engine, I have friends on here that's was hacking... well every thing you can think of.
And as for my liking darkfire, I don't think you know what I like in all fairness, I have offered info countless time b4 on some of the tricks I know that are very unfair as I want to see them fixed. Now I took free crap from my friends don't get me wrong a lot but I never done this didn't have too, and after seeing 3 of them poped for rank hack is more the reason why at the time too but now even after I came back and there still doing there thing is dumb, and btw I don't just mean max money and items, there is a way to make your pokemon way stronger then they should be, and yes works in pvp so lets talk about what has a heavy impact on the gameplay I think this counts.
For the longest time after I talked to 2 of you and just got the cold shoulder I thought you guys had a fix for it and I come back after like 7 big patches and noting lol, this is not cool pvp is unfair, I got a friend who with 1 pokemon can wipe out anyone best 6 team ya that's cool as heck, I know he done pvp with a few players so if they read this they would know who he is. This is highly unfair and needs to be fixed or the info needs to be given out so other my match the stats of that kinda of pokemon.

And dark that's cool you fill this way about not approving , and take if offline, I am with you on this but it seems others are not and its to the point were I see it too unfair and something needs to be done one way or the other to make it fair and with nillzz saying if we use hacks who gives a damn kind of makes me mad, I mean how can some one say that about there own game. With this being said If someone will not fix this I will just quest and make all of this fair.

First of all, if you want to be taken seriously anywhere, try using proper grammar. Maybe this is because I am not a native speaker, but I have to read almost every single sentence you are writing here twice or more times.

Anyways, the first thing you assume is that it's easy to just block every single "hack" for a game. I have no idea WHY you think I can apply some universal anti-hack into a program, but let me tell you: that is not how any of that works.

The current version of the game detects memory edits to certain properties of the game that are crucial to online leaderboards, which are visible to everyone.
It does not block you from running Cheat Engine, you can use that program if you want to.
Now back to your assumption: I needed to develop a special patch for the game just to block memory editing. This also applies to running the game in a .Net sandbox.

And now remember: This game is primarily created for other people to have FUN. Do you not understand that concept? If you have fun playing this game while hacking it, then that is your understanding of how this game is fun. If I have to block everything and make this game run slower because a million different things are checking for every exploit possible, then that is not fun.
Of course, I do not at all approve of any hacking of the game, because it most likely severely reduces fun for those who doing it, but what I hate with a passion are people that are destroying the fun of others. Why would you even do that? What do you gain?
In the end, I am going to do my job every day, being a normal member of society. I am not developing this full time at all, I simply do not have the time to deal with every single script kiddy who read an internet tutorial on how to hack a game. It's not exactly rocket science if you know how a computer works.
I could do these things to probably a lot of games or programs, but I choose not to. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Easy as that.

 

[james012]

my 1st language is not English , you don't need to be rude about my grammar that is real nice of you.

And not I not assuming a damn thing, your assuming I even meant block the hacking , If you cared to maybe I don't know ask you would of known I meant a fix the way the stat hack is done, even for me it would be a easy fix and your telling me you guys/girls cant fix some this easy? LOL

The current version of the game detects noting the only thing you cant do is give your self a dumb high rank like 60k + day 1-30, and yes the game will not boot up if cheat engine is booted up and will close if you boot it up after ... how do you not know this about your game it even gives a log error?

Now back to my assumption ( guess ) now that's cool as all for the patch you have to make and all... but for a game that was going to have trading /pvp online why was this not something done way early on? as most game with online play has you cold of stop all this b4 it even started.

I understand that concept of a fun game very well here nilly boy its you who I don't think that understands that pvp with somebody/something you can never win ageist is not fun
and you say " If you have fun playing this game while hacking it, then that is your understanding of how this game is fun. and . Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn. "
Ok that's nice and all but And now remember some players play the game to ruin it for others, so are you saying if this is how you have fun with the game and ruin it for others who gives a damn?... nice

on your last post you say "I do not at all approve of any hacking of the game" but from the other things you said I don't see this
And in the end if you wanted to do you job a lil better you might want to ask me what I know about all this as I a bit more then a script kiddy

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Easy as that
for people on the new its more like
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...but you will anyways. Easy as that

 

[nilllzz]

my 1st language is not English , you don't need to be rude about my grammar that is real nice of you.

And not I not assuming a damn thing, your assuming I even meant block the hacking , If you cared to maybe I don't know ask you would of known I meant a fix the way the stat hack is done, even for me it would be a easy fix and your telling me you guys/girls cant fix some this easy? LOL

The current version of the game detects noting the only thing you cant do is give your self a dumb high rank like 60k + day 1-30, and yes the game will not boot up if cheat engine is booted up and will close if you boot it up after ... how do you not know this about your game it even gives a log error?

Now back to my assumption ( guess ) now that's cool as all for the patch you have to make and all... but for a game that was going to have trading /pvp online why was this not something done way early on? as most game with online play has you cold of stop all this b4 it even started.

I understand that concept of a fun game very well here nilly boy its you who I don't think that understands that pvp with somebody/something you can never win ageist is not fun
and you say " If you have fun playing this game while hacking it, then that is your understanding of how this game is fun. and . Everybody can choose how they finish the game and how they think the game is the most fun for them. If this involves hacking, who gives a damn. "
Ok that's nice and all but And now remember some players play the game to ruin it for others, so are you saying if this is how you have fun with the game and ruin it for others who gives a damn?... nice

on your last post you say "I do not at all approve of any hacking of the game" but from the other things you said I don't see this
And in the end if you wanted to do you job a lil better you might want to ask me what I know about all this as I a bit more then a script kiddy

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Easy as that
for people on the new its more like
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...but you will anyways. Easy as that

I am not a native English speaker either, still I am trying to communicate with other people utilizing proper grammar.

As I said: This is NOT my job. I am getting no money out of this, I am doing this for fun. I simply do NOT have the time to care about people who are seeking nothing else but destroying the fun of this game for themselves and others. Of course, I am trying my best to prevent this from happening. But I simply cannot block every single hack in existence. If you can tell me how to fix every single thing you are saying, then sure, go ahead, but so far the only things you provided are ways on how to hack the game. Bravo, you can use Google. Great.

And again: This version of the game also does not block Cheat Engine from running. 0.53, look it up, try it.

 

[Tornado9797]

May I add something to this?

It seems that you are primary concerned with people who hack in massively powerful and "unbeatable" teams. You see that as unfair in comparison to everyone else.

While that has some truth to it, there is a simple solution to the problem that does not involve many lines of code: do not fight them.

Seriously. If you know that a certain player hacks and they challenge you to a battle, you have the choice to ignore or decline their offer to battle. Sure it might prompt them to, at worst, call you names (*gasp*), but you can simply ignore that as well.

 

[james012]

May I add something to this?

It seems that you are primary concerned with people who hack in massively powerful and "unbeatable" teams. You see that as unfair in comparison to everyone else.

While that has some truth to it, there is a simple solution to the problem that does not involve many lines of code: do not fight them.

Seriously. If you know that a certain player hacks and they challenge you to a battle, you have the choice to ignore or decline their offer to battle. Sure it might prompt them to, at worst, call you names (*gasp*), but you can simply ignore that as well.

So it comes down to turn you head and look away? wow that is nice I think its time with that to just say I quite and god help the players who do like playing with others as this ruins it
If it cant be fixed one way it can still be fixed, players who want the same edge just look and you will find.