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Mashew

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pikachu doesnt learn iron tail by level up. and pikachu was about like lv 1-15 when he faced brock
 

MrHippocrit

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I guess that was later on in the series then, because I remember Ask training Pikachu to learn Iron Tail for a rock battle.

Then again, Ash only won in Brock's gym because the fire springlers went off. Water + Onix = defeated Onix.
 

frozenshado7

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I guess that was later on in the series then, because I remember Ask training Pikachu to learn Iron Tail for a rock battle.

Then again, Ash only won in Brock's gym because the fire springlers went off. Water + Onix = defeated Onix.
did he not defeat the geodude first? and i forgot about the sprinklers.
and iron tail was WAY later since thats a gen 2 move and brock was like episode 4.

edit: but still look at the stupid stuff like in the first move where they trainer through out like 10 pokemon and pikachu one shots them all...
 

MrHippocrit

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I guess that was later on in the series then, because I remember Ask training Pikachu to learn Iron Tail for a rock battle.

Then again, Ash only won in Brock's gym because the fire springlers went off. Water + Onix = defeated Onix.
did he not defeat the geodude first? and i forgot about the sprinklers.
and iron tail was WAY later since thats a gen 2 move and brock was like episode 4.

edit: but still look at the stupid stuff like in the first move where they trainer through out like 10 pokemon and pikachu one shots them all...
I don't know, I tried to rewatch Pokemon but I only got as far as ep 27, then it came to my realisation that Ash is an idiot, a lot of bad puns, and the anime is pretty much bad.

yes. (and pikachu learned iron tail for a pokemon contest) and it still means he beat him.
I'd say it is a false win.
 

frozenshado7

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did he not defeat the geodude first? and i forgot about the sprinklers.
and iron tail was WAY later since thats a gen 2 move and brock was like episode 4.

edit: but still look at the stupid stuff like in the first move where they trainer through out like 10 pokemon and pikachu one shots them all...
I don't know, I tried to rewatch Pokemon but I only got as far as ep 27, then it came to my realisation that Ash is an idiot, a lot of bad puns, and the anime is pretty much bad.

yes. (and pikachu learned iron tail for a pokemon contest) and it still means he beat him.
I'd say it is a false win.
ya the anime is pretty bad it was good when i was a kid, but thats because it was aimed at like 8 year olds
 

MrHippocrit

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I don't know, I tried to rewatch Pokemon but I only got as far as ep 27, then it came to my realisation that Ash is an idiot, a lot of bad puns, and the anime is pretty much bad.

I'd say it is a false win.
ya the anime is pretty bad it was good when i was a kid, but thats because it was aimed at like 8 year olds
Yup.
If you were to re-watch DBZ, you'd be able to say that it is bad. (I am going to get hunted down for saying this. Hah. Bite me.)
 

MrHippocrit

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Yup.
If you were to re-watch DBZ, you'd be able to say that it is bad. (I am going to get hunted down for saying this. Hah. Bite me.)
i still love dbz WAY to important to my childhood
edit: though its only for the action really
I personally do not appreciate the character design, the bulky 6-7 episodes of him charging all his power and stuff... :I It lacks stuff. As a kid I only liked it because it was flashy, things were exploding....
 

frozenshado7

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i still love dbz WAY to important to my childhood
edit: though its only for the action really
I personally do not appreciate the character design, the bulky 6-7 episodes of him charging all his power and stuff... :I It lacks stuff. As a kid I only liked it because it was flashy, things were exploding....
The entire episode powering up is just to nostalgic for me It wouldnt be the same with out it
 

MrHippocrit

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I personally do not appreciate the character design, the bulky 6-7 episodes of him charging all his power and stuff... :I It lacks stuff. As a kid I only liked it because it was flashy, things were exploding....
The entire episode powering up is just to nostalgic for me It wouldnt be the same with out it
There we have it. ''Nostalgic'' this does NOT mean an anime is good. And should be left out in a debate about its rating.
 
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